Samuel, a man of color vs. John Howdershell
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this boy SamuelSamuel whom I have spoken
is the same who has nowentered suit for his
freedom- I know nothing about this boy SamuelSamuel
since he left this State in 1836- I do not know
that A.JA J Herryman . [ A J HerrymanHerryman's ] mother ever claimed the
boy- A JA J Herryman [ A J HerrymanHerryman's ] mother said he was property given him by his father- [ HerrymanHerryman ] ought
not to sell the boy, he was property given him
by his father, I only know from what A JA J Herryman [ A J HerrymanHerryman ]
said that he [ HerrymanHerryman ] sold the boy
for $ 900.

Examined again

I think A.JA J Herryman . [ A J HerrymanHerryman ][ staid ] with his
brother CharlesCharles the most of his time when
his first visit home- A.JA J Herryman . [ A J HerrymanHerryman's ] mother
resided in this County during A.J. [ Herrymans ]
last stay but not when on his first visit
I do not know of A.J. [ Herrymans ] mother objecting
to the negro boys staying there- A.JA J Herryman . [ A J HerrymanHerryman ] said
when he came here the second time that he
came on a visit but he purchased land and
remained

Cross Examined again

AndrewAndrew JJames Harryman [ James HarrymanHerryman ]when he came the Second time to
this county for a time resided with his father in law
and I think purchased land during the fall or winter
and lived on the land before [ april ] following -

I resided from A JA J Herryman [ A J HerrymanHerryman ] about the same
the second time he came that I did when he first
came

David M. Nelson

I IsaacIsaac Parlier ParlierIsaac Parlier an acting Justice of the
in and for the County of WashingtonCounty of Washington IllinoisIllinois
do hereby certify that David M Nelson the deponent
whose place of Residence is in the County ofCounty of Washington WashingtonCounty of Washington
and State of IllinoisIllinois was by me sworn
to testify the whole truth of his knowledge
the matter in controversy in the cause aforesaid

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and that this deposition was reduced to
writing and subscribed by him in my presence
on the day13th day of August AD 1844 between
the hours of 8 o clock in the forenoon and
6 o clock in the afternoon at Nashville in the
County of WashingtonCounty of Washington and State of IllinoisIllinois
Sworn undermy hand and seal this 13th day
of August A DAugust Chouteau 1844

IsaacIsaac Parlier ParlierIsaac Parlier

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On the part of the plaintiff B.M. Cox
of Lawful age bring sworn and examined
deposeth and saith AndrewAndrew JJames Harryman [ James HarrymanHerryman ]
came to this County in the fall of 1830 or 1831
I think in 1830, remained until the fall of
1832, then went off and [ staid ] from here two
or three years when he moved back and
remained here in this County ever since
AndrewAndrew JJames Harryman [ James HarrymanHerryman ] had a negro boy with
him whom he called Sam which boy came
with him on his first arrival and remained
with him generally during [ Herryman's ]
first stay when A.JA J Herryman . [ A J HerrymanHerryman ] returned
here the second time the boy Sam was with
him the boy remained here generally with
[ HerrymanHerryman ] until the year 1836 or the year 1837
[ HerrymanHerryman ] treated took said boy as his slave and
said the boy was his, the boy was in [ Herryman's ]
employ[ HerrymanHerryman ] was engaged in no
particular business was racing with and
to tradehorses The second time [ HerrymanHerryman ]
came here I think he farmed a little I think
the boy was engaged on the farm and about it
I never heard any one claim this negro boy
besides[ HerrymanHerryman. ] I knew [ Herrymans ] mother