Can you go back to that meeting and tell me why, why you all decided to, uh, call it? How did you first get drawn into the group?
Well, um, when the meeting to help Ali was called, back in 1967, uh, I was a sophomore at UCLA and, uh, I'd gotten to know Jim Brown while I was out here in Los Angeles, and, um, he felt that I should be a part of the group, uh, just mainly to represent young people, I guess. And, uh, being a fan of Ali's, I was very happy to lend my support. I didn't know what we could do to help him, but, uh, I wanted to be involved.