Interview with Rev. Ralph Abernathy

OK, the atmosphere in those meetings with the mayor commissioners...

Rev. Ralph Abernathy:

Yes, Mayor [ Gayles ]Gayle was a very, very passive individual. But the meetings were always tense because Dr. King was the spokesman, and he did not seek to respect that fact and that made for a lot of tension. He wanted to make me the leader, Rev. Seay, the leader, pastors who had been there in the community for longer than Dr. King, and we could not solve the problems, because they were not willing to give in. They were not willing to cooperate and, we could've solved the problem because all they had to do was change the law. And make it permissible for black people to ride on the buses under these conditions. The bus company affiliates, officials could have solved these problems.