One thing that is said about you over and over again is that you have the ability to put words together and take a serious situation and entertain people while making a point, and one of the things that we heard about so much is the doohickey story. I wondered if you could describe that to me.
Well, that the officials had bugged the church and for the mass meetings, and they could hear what was taking place in the meetings. And I names [sic] that "the doohickey" and so consequently, I would preach to the doohickey and I would talk into the doohickey. I would locate it and they thought that we could not find it. But we were not afraid and we had been totally emancipated from all fears and were, were determined to win our god given rights and freedom.