While the activities were going on in Selma—the marches, the effort—there was a whole other story going on in Washington, D.C. were you at all aware of what was happening in Washington with the legislators and with President Johnson slowly coming around to the voting rights bill?
Yes, we were very, very much aware what was taking place in Washington. And we monitored that, and we were eagerly looking forward to the passage of the voting rights bill. And President Johnson almost but sang the anthem of the civil rights movement when he said, "We shall overcome, deep in out hearts, we do believe that we shall overcome." This was before a joint session of the House of Representatives and the US Senate. We were glad and we knew that we had won the victory.