And how was Malcolm a different voice for you at this point?
Malcolm, to me, represented the masses of people straight on. You know, he was trying to talk about self-determination and self-defense and self-respect. He wasn't trying to ah, ah, appease you know, any part of the establishment. That's essentially it. The est-establishment of the White supremacist establishment was corrupt, and the Negroes attached to it were corrupt. That's what I thought. That's what I feel now. And I thought that when King first appeared, too much of what he said appeared to be couched in the rhetoric of the Black establishment as it kowtowed to the White establishment. You know, and later on, as I said, I began to see King in a different light based on his activism and based on the fact of the development of his thought.