Interview with Laverne Barkley
QUESTION 13
TERRY ROCKEFELLER:

Can you again tell me about those things that Elliot did see that the prisons, they had to change because of what they were doing to the people who were, who were put inside. How the prisons were destroying people.

LAVERNE BARKLEY:

Well from what he told me I, these were his concerns. And I'm sure that his book certainly told it more in detail and in depth than, than I can tell you now or even than he told me about.