Do you have a memory of Gary?
In what way?
Standing on the floor, looking at Queen Mother Moore or Baraka?
Yeah, I mean I spoke with Imamu Baraka. As a matter of fact it was at that time that something had happened with Imamu Baraka that really threw me for a loop. Ah, although we had had some adversarial encounters earlier on in the movement, ah, and having been defined by him as a lost soul in this maze of, of, of freedom activity, liberation activity, in Gary he was very warm and very friendly, which I accepted willingly as a spirit of, of a new day. But coupled with that when he told me he was now a Marxist and had found a new level of, for political philosophy and for doings, I was kind of thrown for, ah, I, I didn't know quite how to handle that information. I didn't know where it came from. I didn't know that he had any such inclinations and, ah, the fact that it made itself evident at that place, I could only begin to query what would his objectives be and his goal in America armed with this new philosophical, ah, ah, position, ah.