You had been a member of the student body, you were a member of ROTC. You were sort of outside of the hub of all this activity? how did you feel? did you feel out of place. I mean at this time? All these radical students trying to change the campus?
No, by 1968 I was trying to graduate, and I made a conscious decision not to be part of that group that was planning these major events on campus. ah, I was very active in couple of organizations still, but I had made a conscious choice not gonna participate in what I considered to be activities that I just couldn't support, because I didn't agree with their techniques, so I didn't feel out of place. I still had my friends and we still had our functions, and you know, in some ways, you lived two lives on Howard's campus. Some of the normal collegiate things were still occurring, but yet they were occurring amidst all this turmoil and campus unrest. So that never really bothered me I never felt ostracized or anything by my friends because I wouldn't participate. You know, I think people were very tolerant of letting others make their decisions about they were gonna do in regards to the protest.