How'd you feel about these meetings they had and you didn't go in? You'd been together your friends and you went to these meetings, and you didn't go into these meetings. How did you feel?
Well, in some ways it felt like you were giving up or giving in, because--
yeah, when your friends were having meetings and you didn't participate in them, I think there was feeling you were giving up or giving in to others, even though you might have made a contribution, or might have been able to contribute something that would have shaped the outcome of those meetings, as early as the beginning of second semester my senior year. The way this thing was moving it was not something that I wanted to be associated with.