OK, if you could give me a sense, again, of, um, what it's like to suddenly be doing things that you had always assumed only White people could do. And the sense that made you feel like you were finally a citizen.
Well, we learned to find out what it is that White people always did and we didn't know or what they should have been doing. Um, and, we went through training sessions and, and the War on Poverty, you know, was part of that process of getting us through that. And, it just made us feel like, you know, that we was really citizens.