Now, Herb, if you could sort of tell me how you felt when you heard George's, heard about George Jackson's death.
When I heard about George Jackson's death it impacted on me in such a way that it had a devastating effect, really. To this very day it affects me.
No, you can't put it to this very day.
But it's the truth.
No, you've got to keep it in the past.
Oh, see, that's the--