How did the survival programs come about, and also would you talk about how they worked? How you got people for the food programs, how you got people to donate food? And, first begin with the philosophy of the survival programs.
Well, um, Huey, um, started out naming the programs that we, that we developed, our survival programs, from the theory that, ah, we, this was survival to the point of revolution. So, but the breakfast program, which was not called a survival program initially, but called the breakfast program--
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