After that second debate, Stokes began to slip and Taft began to rise. Election night. What are your memories of it? Were you losing hope? Was there a chance that Stokes might not win?
Oh, I think ah, election night ah, general election night in 1967, it was expected that Stokes was going to win. The fact that it turned out to be so close I, I think was a surprise. And there was some anger ah, because i-it was so close that throughout the evening it could have gone either way. And the feeling that the only way a democrat who had won the primary convincingly the way he had, the only way he could lose was because of racism. And as I recall Gary Hatch, Dick Hatcher running in Gary, Indiana ah, was having the same kind of teeter-totter ah, night.