Was there a particular belief in the democratic party as an organ of change at that time? How did you look at the democratic party in '67?
Ah, by '67, um, I was ready to believe that politics could really make a difference, that while everybody in it didn't ennoble ah, it could be a very noble profession and, and a noble mechanism. But as a student of the sixties, ah, when I was first in college and as I went into the south ah, I was ah, I was a cynical student and really didn't believe that, ah, big government and ah, big business and all that kind of thing that had brought the world to what it was ah, could really work. Um. John Seigenthaler ah, who ah, was at that time the editor of the Nashville Tennessean was a contact that I had the privilege of making. Since he was close to the Kennedys ah, I was able to see bright people um, who believed that they could make a difference ah, and it was a l--a lot of fun. It was exciting to be part of that. And so I began--While I wasn't--I saw him. I got to know him. He acquainted me with that. It made me believe that I could do that sort of thing even though I was not part of, of what he was.