STOP FOR A MOMENT. LET ME CHECK THAT EVERYONE IS HAPPY. COULD YOU TELL US HOW CORE GOT INVOLVED IN THE WORKSHOPS TRAINING IN, IN NONVIOLVENCE, UM, IN NORTH CAROLINA FOLLOWING THOSE FIRST FEW [unintelligible] SIT-INS?

Well, CORE got involved in the, in the training of students down there um, as a result of a telephone call and a post card from Dr. George Simkins who was at that time the um, president of the NAACP chapter in Greensboro, North Carolina and he was a youth advisor for the NAACP there. George Simkins had um, heard about CORE through some people at the American Friends Service Committee office in High Point, North Carolina. And the lady there named Jean Fairfax had shared with him a couple of CORE brochures which uh, among other things, dealt with the um, boycotting of Woolworth stores in New York when Baltimore CORE was trying to desegregate the Baltimore Woolworth's and she gave him other brochures that they talked about other aspects of the nonviolent um, direct action programs that, that CORE had done throughout the forties and fifties. So we had nothing to do with the beginning of the, of the sit-in in Greensboro, but when George knew these kids were going to be doing this, uh, he sent us a post card, and uh, I got the postcard in the national office of CORE, um, showed it to a couple of associates there, decided to call him on the phone, and I called him and he said, "Can you come down?" And I said sure. Uh, in those days we rode on a bus and I hopped on a Greyhound bus or a Trailways, I don't remember what it was and um, took the bus down to uh, to North Carolina. I never got to Greensboro, because by the time I got there, they had closed down all the lunch counters and I telephoned George Simkins en route and he told me to meet him in Durham. I, I went to Durham and uh George introduced me to Floyd McKissick who was an NAACP leader um, in Durham, and from there um, we got started and uh, they asked us to, they asked me and later others to help change some of the kids because these, this city movement was spreading from city to city and we did what we could to help.