Sorry, can you just begin again with Jonathan Daniels—
Jonathan Daniels was a white student who was studying at theological seminary. And he like many white students who were conscious of the responsibility came to see of what help he could be in advancing the cause of humanity. He came to apply to work with SNCC, and because he heard of SNCC he felt his politics was closely allied with the policies of SNCC. But doing the organizing work we were doing in Lowndes County, Alabama, just made it impossible for a white student to do that type of work. We had no base in Lowndes County, so there was no way to protect him and if he were working with us he would be clearly a target of the Ku Klux Klan, and our work then would be just protecting him rather than doing our work. He inquired about working in Lowndes County with SNCC and people had told him, well he should see me but that it would be difficult to talk with me because I was a racist and didn't like white people, etc., etc—but he of course had at least courage to find out for himself. And so when we sat down and discussed, he saw clearly the tactics and saw the correctness of the position that SNCC had. He was hoping, he hoped the conditions could be different but they were not. At the same time, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which were also conducting some campaigns in Alabama, took a city in Lowndes County, Fort Deposit, not its capital but a city at the end of the County and began to do some demonstrations in there, around integrating restaurants, etc., etc—something that SNCC was not involved in at that time in the county.