Interview with Stokley Carmichael
QUESTION 65
JUDY RICHARDSON:

OK, Free Huey Rally, Oakland, 1968.

STOKELY CARMICHAEL:

Oh, I, ah, recall always the Free Huey Rally where a lot of enthusiasm. It represented a watershed in our struggle. Here under the Black Panther Party in California, where young brothers and sisters of our community who make up the lumpen proletariat, that element that uses their protest in activity that brings them into direct conflict with the, ah, police force, bordering sometimes on criminal activity, where they began to flock into the Panthers. At the same time the SNCC who represented the revolutionary intelligentsia, that is to say, those people who have knowledge and were trained and used this knowledge for the people were able to come together. This bringing together them, would produce for me Malcolm X and all of them. So it meant you would have an organization of Malcolm X everywhere. So I looked forward with great enthusiasm. I recognized however that the alliance could not work. Ah, simply because my own position in SNCC at that time was clear. I, sooner or later, would have to leave that organization within a very short period, one way or the other. At the same time, secondly the struggle between the Panther leadership at that time, specifically Eldridge Cleaver and Bobby Seale and the leadership of SNCC specifically, Jim Foreman, were both jockeying for positions of domination. Brother Jamail El Amin, then known as Rap Brown, who was Chairman of SNCC was, ah, under, ah, great strains and, ah, great limitations of movement by the police force.

JUDY RICHARDSON:

OK, excuse me--