And give me a sense of the police. you had mentioned that the police were so different from what you had come from.
Right, I, I recall when we first got into Gary, we, ah, didn't know our way around, so we stopped and asked a local policeman for some help. And the police officer smiled and said, "Follow me." He not only showed us, he led us to where we needed to go to register, ah, for the convention. I mean, and keep in mind, I had just come from Wilmington, North Carolina, where the police were pointing guns at us, trying to intimidate us, keep us from having meetings, and it was a different situation with at least the law enforcement in Gary, Indiana. They had been transformed also with this convention being in Gary.