And did you ever feel that it threatened the convention?
Oh, no, at no time. See, one of the things about the Gary Convention, ah, the tremendous will that was expressed by us just being there. If somebody, uh--I don't want to say that.
Ah, hah, no, you don't want to say that.
There would have been very little that could have really deterred this convention from going forward. Ah, the walkouts, ah, had an impact, but it did not have the kind of impact that would have substantially thwarted the thrust of the convention.
I started to say, if somebody ha--
yes, I do. I wanted that piece of it. Yeah.
Sound good off camera, but on?
No, it's good on camera too.