Interview with Ben Chavis
QUESTION 42
JUDY RICHARDSON:

And talk about, when you said divisions, what was the mishmash of all the different groups were there? I mean, wasn't there a sense--I mean there were so many different groups. how did you all stay together? give a sense of that.

BEN CHAVIS:

There were a lot of different groups at the Gary Convention. Ah, from extreme left to extreme right-wing. Ah, from nationalists to, to Pan-Africanists to integrationists to, ah, ah, Marxist-Leninists. Ah, you name it. Some folk came without any ideology. They was just there, ah, out of local struggles. And it--but it was important for all of those ingredients to be there. Because that was representative of who we were in 1972. And the important thing was for us to hang in there and struggle over some of the divisions, over some of those, ah, things that had kept us from coming together. And at least if we could do this in 1972, it, it, it, it gives us another chance to carve out a more positive and more productive future for us in light of all the repression that we were going through at the time.

JUDY RICHARDSON:

Cut. OK.

SAM POLLARD:

Perfect.

JUDY RICHARDSON:

Thank you, Sir. OK, and we're going to have some room tone.