At what point did you go up to see the students at night to talk to them, you know?
It was evening. At a point where we got the board to agree, and by we, I meant a few of us including the distinguished chemist Percy Julian, who fortunately was not a hard liner, 'cause he did have, the board had respect for Percy Julian, a few of us had the board agree that we should go and talk with the students and show them that there were ways of dealing with their issues other than through violence. If I remember correctly, maybe the majority of the board didn't think that we were going to succeed. And they said, "All right, go." But the I think they gave us about 24 hours or so to accomplish our mission and if we did not succeed then they would bring in the police.
That's great. Cut, that's very good.
No. No! That's just very good.
You know the person who you should talk with is Herb Reed. Herb Reed, and Frank Reeves is dead now, but they were in more direct communication with the students and have alliance with the students and they were friends of mine. You could talk with them. And they were the ones who arranged for us to go in.
But what your giving us is the sense of the board reaction which I think is very strong
There were some hardliners.