What was the prison movement in terms of, and how did you see the prison movement fitting into your overall notion on the revolutionary movement or a full scale liberation movement in this country, what was the part it had to play?
Well, although in the Black community, at that time, virtually everyone had some personal contact with the prison system, ah, I know in my family, ah, I could count, ah, several cousins who had gone to prison. But it was one of those things that we never approached politically. We never integrated, ah, what was happening to thousands and thousands of Black people and other poor people into our, ah, analysis of the exploitative and oppressive character of this society. So, George Jackson for example, ah, was very enlightening in his ideas when he, you know, pointed to, ah, the--