STOP FOR A MOMENT, I'LL LET YOU THINK I MEAN IF, IF YOU HAVE THIS IMAGE… IF YOUR IMAGE IS THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO PURSUE THIS MUCH LONGER, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF IT FOR MY OWN SELF, I MEAN, BUT IF YOUR IMAGE IS OF THIS BLUR, THIS, THIS CHUNK OF TIME, DID YOU EVER FEEL THAT IT WAS GOING TO GET OUT OF CONTROL, PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE HURT, AS THEY WERE?
Well, I don't think I ever, or, I mean I don't think I was re-, don't recall when I was conscious of the gunfire. Er uh, I mean, we knew that there was rocks and bottles thrown around, and we knew that there was uh, a lot of hollering and shouting, and, and gathering of lots of students, but I don't think at that time that I appreciated the number of potentially violent people that were gathering on that campus from outside the university. I think if I'd realized that fully at the time I would have been a lot more apprehensive than I was, if you want to… but, I didn't feel at the time that the marshals were going to get overrun. Uh, I knew it was, it was a serious situation, and one that if anybody lost their head, y-you could have some serious confrontations but I didn't, it wasn't a, it wasn't a sense of a pitched battle if that what you're talking about. And the, the marshals weren't using their sidearms or anything like that.