WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE IMPACT OF THOSE, THOSE DEATHS IN TERMS OF THE COUNTRY RECOGNIZING THE PROTEST MOVEMENT?
Oh, I think it had a great impact. Uh, I think it had a lot of impact. I don't, I don't really think it had while it was far, far more tragic than what happened at Selma the following year, I think the thing that really brought disgrace into focus was Selma in 1965. And, Neshoba County was was one terrible episode uh, on that road as Vernon Dahmer's death, or Herbert Lee's death, or the other deaths in Mississippi or the fire bombings of houses and the other intimidation, the economic intimidation of the sharecroppers in Haywood County. Or just, I could give you a whole litany of those kinds of circumstances. But I think really that, the incident at the Pettus Bridge is the thing that really brought the country into focus.