Was it hard for you to get used to calling him Muhammad Ali?
It was easy. No problem. Fact the funniest bit was with, ah, with Rudy, ah, Rudy came back to the gym, this is later on, and he says, "Angelo I've got great news for you." Because I was very close to the brother and he says, I said, "What's that?" He said, "I got a new name." I say, "What's that?" He says, "Rahnan R-A-H-N-A-N, Rahnan Ali," because Elijah had given him the name. I said, "That's OK. I'll call you Rocky." He said, "No, you ain't." This was the, the little taste I got of it. But I didn't give a damn. What's the difference? And I didn't go around the mulberry bush and call him champ. What's that? That's balogna. I was still dealing with the same individual, same guy, great fighter. I mean he proved that night with Sonny Liston. So what the heck's in a name to me? Nothing.
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