In `62, your family moved over to the 3400 Madison block. What happened? I mean it was three-quarters, ah, three-qua- had three, let's stop. See, even I get nervous, see I can get nervous sometimes. Let's start over again.
In `62 your family moved over to the 3400 block on Madison and three-quarters of, of the building was White. What happened when you moved into that building?
When we moved into that building the services started to go down after we, after Black people moved in.
Can you start again and say, "When I moved into the new building on 3400 Madison--"
Oh, OK. When I moved into the building on 3400 Madison, it was predominantly White, and when, when Blacks start moving into that building then it seemed to, seemed like White people just moved out overnight. They were there. And the services started to go down, he stopped painting, he stopped doing any repairs and things in the building**. If a doorbell goes out and he wouldn't repair them.