Before we started rolling, you said, "It's always that moment where a person could have just said I was going to do it."
Yes, ah, when it got down to that actual moment where it was just, me calling his name, saying Muhammad Ali, I think, you know, I thought is he or is he not going to do it, you know, it was just, there was that moment of indecision. He could have stepped forward and the whole thing would have been, you know, totally different. Everything would have turned out different. But, ah, he had, evidently, he had already made his decision. But I didn't know it until I actually called his name and looked him in the eye whether or not he was going to do it.