You said that Kennedy got angry. What did he tell you?
Well, I remembered that he said that he had never, he was shocked, that he just did not believe, senator Kennedy said he didn't believe that there were these conditions in America and he could not have remembered seeing any poverty like this in his own country. Ah, this reminded him of visits to other countries, to South Africa, to third world countries, but he had no, no sense that this kind of poverty existed in America. He had not seen anything like it at home.