What was sort of the attitude of the brothers in there, I mean, after they had just initially taken over this yard?
Well, you know, when you, when you look at the 28 demands, they were really saying we want to be helped while we're here. We don't want to be brutalized. We don't want to be dehumanized, so that when we go out of here we then victimize our own people. I think one of them made that presentation. It was absolutely fantastic. He said, "We want to be helped. We want to help the guards who are watching over us to understand that we are human beings." And, ah, when you look at the demands it was all about improving on the quality of life so they could be helped. Education, there was schooling, there was sensitivity training they wanted for the, for the guards so they would understand this new population they were dealing with. Ah, and so it was a lot of very positive things. And, ah, they knew they had to serve their time. It wasn't a matter of them, you know, diminishing time to, to, to serve and, I just saw people crying out for help, that wanted help, needed help and as one brother said, "If you dehumanize us in here and we don't value our lives and then we're let out of here, then we will go out and victimize our people more." Because 95 percent of all crimes committed by African Americans are against African Americans, so they saw themselves being used as a process of genocide and they wanted to get away and be helped so they can be constructive.