OK, to get a little background on the condition of schools, the quality of education. You were a teacher, a member of the union. What kind of opportunity did the experiment in Ocean Hill-Brownsville present for the students?
I think that there was the hope that if parents and teachers could work together that we could build a coalition that would enable us to get the kind of resources that were necessary for the schools. And also that it would be helpful in general to the kids, as it always is, ah, even today, for the teachers and the parents to work together. If we're going to successfully educate kids there has to be a partnership between teachers and parents. And that was what a lot of us hoped would happen then.