Who were those other teachers, I mean, you said new voices?

Well, suddenly it was, it, you know, I think that what happened is that the conflict attracted everyone under the sun, ah, and it, it just became a terribly adversarial situation. Now Rhody McCoy for example, had not been involved the previous year. He appeared during the summer before the, believe he was--

Actually, he was there.

He was there? I don't remember his being there.

That's right, he was there in the spring of that year but he, he was someone who initially, I think, tried to work--