OK, now, we're, we're, we're back in '67. Why were you chosen to be the field representative in Ocean Hill-Brownsville? I want to get a little bit of your background.
Well, I had just started working for the union as a field representative but I had come out of a, out of an activist background. I had been very active in the Civil Rights Movement. I was a member of Harlem Corps. I had b- taken part in the, ah, Route 40 freedom rides. I had been arrested right outside of, ah, Baltimore on those freedom rides. And I spent, ah, the summer of '63 as a volunteer organizer for the march on Washington, working closely with Bayard Rustin, ah, up in the headquarters in Harlem. So, ah, I knew a lot of people in the city and in the, in the community. And I suppose that that was the reason, ah, why I sent out there. Also my, my philosophical bent, ah, was the same then as it is now which is that we've got to work together, that, that the teachers, ah, and the communities that they serve have got to be on the same wavelength for the sake of the education of the kids. And I've, I've always felt very strongly about that. And I suppose that having the background in the Civil Rights Movement, having, ah, friends and, and, and relationships in the community, ah, and having that activist, ah, approach was, was the reason, those were the reasons I guess why I was sent out there.