How did you feel to be on, what some might say, the other side? I mean you had always, it seems to me, have been fighting for communities. How did it feel to be on the other side?
Well, I didn't feel like I was on another side. I mean I have never felt any ambivalence or wavering about where I stand on issues of race and integration. I mean it's, you know, that's just who I am. I was very, very pained by the, by the overall conflict. I thought that it was a terrible setback for relationships, that, ah, it was a, it was an agonizing experience to go through. Ah, I thought that whatever could be done to try to preserve, ah, some communication between groups, I would do so that whenever this was over we could start the healing process and the rebuilding of relationships process. That was what was important to me. It was a very difficult and painful time.