So it's early `67, nothing's happened in Detroit yet and you were joining a predominantly White police force, what kind of reception did you get?
I had been in the Marine Corp for almost six years. I was determined to be the best police officer that they'd ever seen. I was going to join the department because I wanted to be a police officer, I had always wanted to be a police officer. The reception was the typical reception, you're one of, of 70 or 80 Black people on a force of predominantly, ah, ah, non minority people. You have to be an exception, and I tried to be an exception. I had problems, OK, but there were problems that you dealt with, it was just, just the times.