OK, but paint a picture for me, it's night time, what's out there?
No, I'll paint a different picture. It was day time, it wasn't night time when it happened. It happened in the early evening, and, ah, it was hot, and when it happened, it was not the explosive situation that a lot of people think it was. It occurred and it was almost frivolous, it was a air of, of--
OK, stop for a second, I'm sorry, I just think we're, we have, we're building a story, we need to know.