Did you have to try to convince people to come out and register and vote during the primary? Was it hard to get people?
Yes, definitely. Not all people but there was a certain segment of people who felt well, this ah, they had this negative attitude, they felt well, eh, this just can't be, ah, we, ah, the people just won't, ah, ah, elect a Black man**. And th, this, this what was hard, ah, and so hard in the campaign in the role that I played as well as many others, ah, in knocking on doors to get people to, ah, sign petitions or come out to vote. It was just difficult to get them to, ah, believe in themselves, that we can do this. We have Carl B. Stokes, now our candidate for mayor, and we can do this if you just come out and vote.