Interview with Joseph Gardner
QUESTION 7
JAMES A. DeVINNEY:

All right, tell me about the people who worked for Harold.

JOSEPH GARDNER:

Well, one of the most unique things about this campaign was, It was truly a grassroots campaign in the strict sense of the word. Ah, in all of my years of being involved in politics in the City of Chicago, I had never seen such an outpouring of someport,[SIC] of support from people, many of whom had never really been involved in political campaigns. Ah, there were teachers for Harold. There were barbers for Harold. Beauticians for Harold. Taxicab drivers for Harold** Nurses for Harold. Every possible, ah, ah, group that represented the broadest possible spectrum of professional associations, business people, grassroots civic organizations and so forth, participated in some form or fashion in this campaign. And one of the things that, ah, I came to realize very early in the campaign was the fact that operation PUSH in essence turned over its Saturday morning forum, which is an hour, ah, on the, ah, ah, radio, one of the Black oriented, orientated[SIC] radio stations to the campaign, in the sense that Reverend Jackson and the rest of us at PUSH, ah, talked about the campaign every Saturday for about eight to ten successive Saturdays. And what would happen is, that, ah, Sister's Shaw's broadcast from 10 o'clock, ah, in the morning to 11, ah, at that time of day, people in the shopping centers, they're in the beauty shops, they're in the barber shops, they're in the pool halls and so forth. And a lot of those groups got formed out of the urgings of Reverend Jackson that, you know, we've got to have total effort from the community whether you are a barber or a beautician or you own a bar or restaurant. Everybody can play a role in this campaign. And that was the theme that went forth and the people responded. They started forming little associations, ah, ah, young artists started putting together raps, I must have still now, 15 or 20 tapes of young artists who put together rap songs for Harold around the notion of his, ah, ballot number, in, I think the primary was Punch 8. And things like, I can't wait to punch 8, ah, it's our time to punch 9, when he became punch 9 in the, in the general election. All these kinds of things were, ah, genuine evidence of a real outpouring of, of the community in support of, ah, this man who would be mayor of the city of Chicago.

JAMES A. DeVINNEY:

All right, let's just stop down for a moment.