Why did you go to Howard? What were you looking for?
I was looking for a community.
If you could start with, I grew up in Yonkers.
You want to do it all over again but compress it? OK. Ah, well let's, ask me the question again.
Why did you go to Howard and what were you looking for?
Well, I grew up in Yonkers, New York in a predominantly White neighborhood, feeling very isolated for, for many reasons. And I really wanted to go to a place where there was a like-minded Black community. And I thought Howard would be that place. Ah, I had been very affected, I think growing up, by so much that was going on around me, particularly those Freedom Rides in 1961, that made me ask a lot of questions and made me curious to find out so much more and so many things that I certainly wasn't getting in my own school, in my own experience in Yonkers. So Howard, I was determined to, to go to Howard in '65.