Do you think he said anything to you?
Not a word. He did not say a word. He sat there smoking his pipe.
Can you say he didn't say--
He didn't say a word to us. He didn't say a word. He ah sat there smoking his pipe. Ah, in bewilderment not really understanding. See they all had this bewilderment. They didn't really know what this was all about. They, they, they never really sort of understood what it is we wanted. And that's one reason we made the manifesto. Never knew how to really, and never took it seriously. I mean the Achilles' heel was that they really thought we were children. They really thought we were these kids from the fields. And, ah, their job was to keep us in line. And they, as a result, ah, you know they, they took a lot of damage for it. They just never took us seriously.