I WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE SPECIFICS OF UH, THAT CONVERSATION YOU HAD WITH WILSON BAKER ABOUT ALLOWING YOU TO MAKE THAT MARCH TO THE COURTHOUSE.
Well, uh, I broke out of the line. I don't know how I got through the uh, posse there, but uh, the two or three of us apparently were beyond the posse and talking with Wilson Baker and, and Jim Clark. And uh, one of them said to me, I guess it was Wilson Baker that he was, uh, I asked him why he, uh, was, was so adamant in disrespect and he said he was committed to uh, carry out the laws of the uh, of the state of Alabama. And I said, what about the laws of the uh, United States of America and the Bill of Rights of the Constitution? And he said, well, uh, I guess that, I guess that's my job too, something like that. But then we did have to talk uh uh quite a bit about the uh, about marching. They had said that there would be no marching of course, absolutely no marching. Uh, then I think, some of us said, can't five go abreast. Well, I don't remember the detail of this, but I finally said, I think it was, can't three abreast go on the sidewalk? And uh, uh, I think he said let's, as I'm answering this question, it occurs to me that he said, Let's go off and talk about this later. And we did talk about it later, I guess over at the Brown Chapel and uh, he came back and said, Well, you can do two or three abreast on the sidewalk. And uh, then he protected us for that uh, for that march to the courthouse.