Uh, one looks back and wonders, uh, uh, why there was such a tremendous gathering at Selma, why there was representation on such a fairly high level really, religiously speaking. I think that the uh, by and large the uh, the uh, major white denominations uh, so to speak, had been slow to catch on to the need, the crisis. Martin Luther King's appeal to them to be present, to be represented certainly was, was very meaningful, did elicit a response but I myself was surprised to see a few people there that I thought were there partly uh, to be uh, photographed, included in the, in the news reports. And I can't help believing that it was uh, both sincerity and earnestness, commitment on the one hand, and a, and a popular response, uh to be in the limelight on the other hand. But, but that always the case I guess, you have the mixture. And certainly it did the people that were there enough good so that you would rejoice that they responded even if they responded with less King, less, uh, uh, uh, earnestness and commitment than King had and C.T. Viv-Vivian and the rest of them. So uh, I was a little, uh, I, I was uh, I was certainly enormously grateful for the response, but uh, and, and my justification, I might not have responded I suppose, I hate to say this, but I might not have responded if it hadn't had been for Jim Reeb as one of my ministers you see. Uh, you, you learn a lot of things painfully slowly. Uh, but uh, on the other hand, I, I do uh want to say as I'm asked again and again that by and large, uh, that group of ministers and the Unitarian Universalist Movement had been neared the front line than most bodies. So that I think that there was a, a natural response from our constituency.