When you were at Yale you had a very specific relationship to the Bakke case. Could you tell me about the brief that you helped write?
Well, you know, while I was, at the same time that I was sort of coming to terms with the bitter realities of, of some of the experience of what it's like to be a person of color at Yale, ah, the, the Bakke case was winding its way through the courts. In part of my last year in, ah, the, ah, law school the court had decided that it was going to decide the case so, uh, a group of us, ah, including a Yale Law School Professor, ah, crafted [ a ]an amicus curiae brief in the Bakke decision for the Yale Black Law Student Union. And, ah, in that brief what we tried to do was argue for a more meaningful, substantive conception of equal protection in contemporary America. We talked in terms of a genuine equality that really, ah, reflected the nature of the kind of multi-cultural and multi-racial society that we live in. And, ah, that brief, ah, has always served as a kind of starting point for me in terms of my own ideas about Affirmative Action and equality in modern America.