Wonderful. I have one kind of summary question. For our last program--
--the years 1965-84 what's the legacy, what do they represent for you?
I think overall it represents it represents ah, our struggle to participate, to gain access to the political system especially and to become players in that arena, to become full participants in that arena. And if one looks at where we were in 1985, ah, 1965, ah, the passage--