Now you told me this story about how, to you, it was the same as, with the house, story, remember, being welcome in someone's house is different from owning a house. Could, could you tell that?
Yeah, well, you know, um, I, wa- specifically, you know, in, wh- after he, well, it was really hard to convince him, but I looked upon it as being, um, th- you know, Democratic Party, being, a house owned by someone else, and we were welcome in the house, you know, and, ah, by re- and free access to the house, you know, up to a point, but it belonged to someone else. And to me, a person need their own, they need their own house, and if I'm able to get my own house, then, you know, you look upon me as equal, and then we can interchange our resources and so, but I need to own my own. And I just, when I looked upon as the Gary Convention as being our house, and, ah, you know, equipping ourselves to be accepted equally and being able to contribute something to the Democratic Party.
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