You mentioned also that when you looked out you saw people and they were in dashikis, they looked different, they talked different, give me a sense of that, the sense that once you really started to one another, you realized that they weren't that different from the people you just left.

Yeah, well, this was true, of all of the states--

I'm sorry, if you could just--

After getting to the convention and really looking over the convention floor, there were people of all segment of life, I mean all levels and all professions, and, and, to see all of us there and we were all able to mingle and to communicate together, this was ah, ah, ne- regardless of what level of, of, ah, the community we came from or what level of profession we were from--

Keep rolling, but if you could give me a sense that when you first saw them, they looked a little strange to you, you know, those people looked a little crazy. You know.

Which they did, they did.

So talk, talk about that, make me realize.

Um, after, when, after we, after I, we made it to the convention and we got there, um, being wi- one of, really, our first time away from home and first time participating in a convention of this, or a convention of any kind, and really, we, ah, I was a little skeptic and, and a little uneasy, but after getting there and seeing people or, any, they were people of all professions

OK, OK, he's going to just change the camera rolls.