Would he sometimes preempt things that you would try, he would send in the city to do better, like picking up trash? REV.
Well, see Bread Basket became a, a factor in beginning to galvanize Blacks and progressive Whites in that city. But they have often been used as downright intimidation. The Reverend Clavins[SIC], a tremendous minister who was pastor, who was head of the Pastor's Conference the minister's conference at that time, ah, one northern program Dr. King had was Operation Breadbasket. Getting ministers to fight for jobs from corporations. They did not open up jobs to use at the boycott. So when Reverend Evans identified with Dr. King, he faced the shut down of access to capital to, to build his church. Ah, many ministers closed their pulpits down to Dr. King in Chicago but if they opened them they would face billing and code violations the next day. So, in some sense, that was an intimidation of the boss of religion in Chicago. The Reverend Evans would not bow. Because Dr. King was able to preach at his church he faced the wrath of that machinery and for seven years, what was to be a new church, was just steel and frame. We finally got, got it through with the help of Reverend Don Benedict and others, Seawin[SIC] Independence Bank. But seven years later and that was the power of that machine. I remember one night, had been downtown, Dr. King, Andy Young, Walter Fauntroy an investment banker, told us Daley has the power to let any building in this town go up or shut it down. If you'll just back off, you can get the church. Reverend Evans said, Whenever that church is built, it will be built on a solid foundation. I will not bow, will not surrender, I will not forsake Dr. King and he held out. He held on.