Did you see the struggle? The Panther said that their struggle was part of a liberation struggle. In any way did you see the struggle for self-defense, the carrying guns and law books, did you see that as being part of a civil rights struggle at all?
Ah, I, I couldn't see that the justification they had for the displaying the weapons and then, and shooting at police officers. Myself, the only experience I had was they shot at me and I had never had a complaint or, or even knew of them, never had a confrontation with any of them. You know, I couldn't understand why they would shoot me. Ah, but, they were unhappy with the system. They were trying to change the system and, ah, what they did may well have, ah, helped change it. It did change. The system did change.