What did it mean to you that this group of Black men were taking to weapons? What did that mean to you?
Well, it means that you might run into, have a confrontation with them at any time, you know. They were, they were out looking at what the police were doing. We had officers stopping a car and then we would have a carload full of these Black Panther people pull up behind him and watch them and see what they were doing, you know. They were, they were looking at what the police were doing. So that, ah, you know, not too comforting to have a, some people who, you know, actually they didn't have weapons on them but, ah, in, when they were out there, you know, illegal for them to carry weapons and they didn't really have them that we could see. If we did of course they would have been arrested but they were out watching to see what the police were doing**.
Could you cut for a second?