OK, stop. So now I want to move ahead to July 23rd--
--if you could tell me about going out on peace patrol on 12th Street.
The, ah, Black administrative assistant in the police department, Hubert Locke, ah, called me at about 6:30 in the morning. I think he, he called several, ah, people in the community, ah, who were regarded as, as, as Black leaders, I suppose, ah, to come to Grace Episcopal Church. Ah, he said we were in trouble, there was a situation developing on 12th Street that seemed to be getting out of hand, and so when we got to the church, ah, he explained what they had seen, what they knew, ah, in the police department, and, ah, asked if we would, ah, assist the police effort by going in teams, ah, throughout the area and asking people to leave the streets and return to their homes. Ah, I was paired with, ah, the then young Congressman John Conyers, and, ah, ah, Hubert Locke passed out bull horns, so John took the bull horn and I drove my car. Ah, we left Virginia Park and 12th Street and had gotten to Hazelwood, which is about six, seven blocks north, when the crowd was so large and the violence, open violence taking place right in the street in terms of, ah, trash cans being picked up and thrown against the shop windows and people just walking in and taking things and, ah, the, ah, and fires were already, ah, had, ah, were burning in different places. Ah, The crowd, the whole scene was such that I could not drive my car further. John Conyers finally got out of the car, got on the hood of it, and attempted to speak to the people about leaving the street, and ah, returning to their homes. Well finally I got of my car, I whispered to John's ear, "I would like to get my car out of here if I can".** Ah, finally I got out of my car and got on the hood of the car with John and there is a picture, at least new- one news photo I've seen--
OK, I need to stop you, and we can pick it up from John getting out of the car because you said return to the streets, he was --return to their homes.